Making Shuttles

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Sportgus

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Construction of my shuttles will now be here, I'll put the LS and the LS-S here too, the acronyms sound better.
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Sportgus

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Another variant, here is the LS-C3, it can get to LEO carrying 405 tons with over 30% fuel left.
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TtTOtW

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A: the booster does most of the work.
B: that's what it's supposed to do.

Well done.

... You dont need all those probes.
 
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TtTOtW said:
A: the booster does most of the work.
B: that's what it's supposed to do.

Well done.

... You dont need all those probes.
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Tt really doesnt like probe spam

definetly not me before shuttle collaboration
 
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TtTOtW

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Probe spam and RCS spam are what makes people blind to the actual true instability of their shuttles. Instead of engineering the imbalance out, probes and RCS gets added as a shortcut to artificial stability. But in fact there is no stability, it's just an eye blind. Probes add 3 tons per probe which reduces your delta-v and load-carrying capacity quite rapidly. RCS saps fuel like nobody's business due to its very low ISP. And in the quantities commonly used for "balance", the amount of fuel wasted is really significant. That results in a sharp decrease in delta v. These two methods of so-called "balancing" a shuttle are nothing but poor engineering and a dead loss.
 
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TtTOtW said:
Probe spam and RCS spam are what makes people blind to the actual true instability of their shuttles. Instead of engineering the imbalance out, probes and RCS gets added as a shortcut to artificial stability. But in fact there is no stability, it's just an eye blind. Probes add 3 tons per probe which reduces your delta-v and load-carrying capacity quite rapidly. RCS saps fuel like nobody's business due to its very low ISP. And in the quantities commonly used for "balance", the amount of fuel wasted is really significant. That results in a sharp decrease in delta v. These two methods of so-called "balancing" a shuttle are nothing but poor engineering and a dead loss.
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Hard fax
 
KaiserRedGamer

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TtTOtW said:
Probe spam and RCS spam are what makes people blind to the actual true instability of their shuttles. Instead of engineering the imbalance out, probes and RCS gets added as a shortcut to artificial stability. But in fact there is no stability, it's just an eye blind. Probes add 3 tons per probe which reduces your delta-v and load-carrying capacity quite rapidly. RCS saps fuel like nobody's business due to its very low ISP. And in the quantities commonly used for "balance", the amount of fuel wasted is really significant. That results in a sharp decrease in delta v. These two methods of so-called "balancing" a shuttle are nothing but poor engineering and a dead loss.
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What makes the shuttles unstable anyway?
 
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Sportgus

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Shuttle is built and can withstand reentry, holds 180t
It's still COMPLETELY no clip
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Maybe I'm using too much shuttle weight for payload weight. Anyway now the booster
 
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Sportgus

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It's finished
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I had barely any fuel left, this is good thing?
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Tried a payload door method Tt used, I think atleast
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MY TAIL!!
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The shuttle actually has 0.9 TWR, I never knew you could have this little while the booster has 1.1+ but it worked like a charm
 
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Sportgus

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Made this small guy
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Only meant for in space operations, the kolibris by the front are so the shuttle can land on its wheels, flip up and take off vertically.
It has 2300 m/s of delta v and is pretty balanced
Name is SOS
 
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