Life On Venus?

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Scientists on Earth suspect there may be life in the venusian atmosphere! They have hypothesised that it would be located about 15km up, and living in it's atmosphere off of the resources located there.

Mission Objective
Your goal is to send two probes to Venus.

Probe One: the first probe you are tasked to launch is a solar investigation probe.

*The goal of this mission is to investigate if the solar radiation at an altitude of 15km is too high for life, or if it is suitable for it.

Probe two: if probe one determines that there are solar radiation levels within the tolerance for life then probe two will be sent.
*The goal of this probe will be to do a sample return mission (but not in the typical fashion. You will design a probe capable of withstanding the forces of entry into the venusian atmosphere. The probe needs to descend to an atmosphere of 15km, collect a sample, and then return to orbit. Once in orbit, the sample must be returned to Earth for further investigation.


Requirements:
  • Design two probes that will be launched separately
  • Probe one must orbit Venus and take solar radiation samples
  • Probe two must enter venusian orbit after Probe one
  • Probe two must descend to and altitude of 15km (and above 10km at least)
  • Probe two must return sample to Earth
Rules:
  • No cheats of any kind (RCS bug, cheat menu, Ect)
  • Must launch two probes separately
  • Pad assembly is allowed
  • Each probe can be multiple parts (Ex: orbiter, and sample collector)
  • Have fun!

Report back your findings. The Scientist are waiting!
 
T

The Dark in the Light

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#2
Scientists on Earth suspect there may be life in the venusian atmosphere! They have hypothesised that it would be located about 15km up, and living in it's atmosphere off of the resources located there.

Mission Objective
Your goal is to send two probes to Venus.

Probe One: the first probe you are tasked to launch is a solar investigation probe.

*The goal of this mission is to investigate if the solar radiation at an altitude of 15km is too high for life, or if it is suitable for it.

Probe two: if probe one determines that there are solar radiation levels within the tolerance for life then probe two will be sent.
*The goal of this probe will be to do a sample return mission (but not in the typical fashion. You will design a probe capable of withstanding the forces of entry into the venusian atmosphere. The probe needs to descend to an atmosphere of 15km, collect a sample, and then return to orbit. Once in orbit, the sample must be returned to Earth for further investigation.


Requirements:
  • Design two probes that will be launched separately
  • Probe one must orbit Venus and take solar radiation samples
  • Probe two must enter venusian orbit after Probe one
  • Probe two must descend to and altitude of 15km (and above 10km at least)
  • Probe two must return sample to Earth
Rules:
  • No cheats of any kind (RCS bug, cheat menu, Ect)
  • Must launch two probes separately
  • Pad assembly is allowed
  • Each probe can be multiple parts (Ex: orbiter, and sample collector)
  • Have fun!

Report back your findings. The Scientist are waiting!
This is what I'm gonna be doing next. Already sorta designed probe 1. Also, for the first probe, do I just send it straight into the Venusian atmosphere and when the time comes, deploy parachutes and let it land or what?
 

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This is what I'm gonna be doing next. Already sorta designed probe 1. Also, for the first probe, do I just send it straight into the Venusian atmosphere and when the time comes, deploy parachutes and let it land or what?
You can do that if you want. The one big requirement is that you never actually land the second probe. So as long as the second probe stays above at least 10km then your good.
 
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The Dark in the Light

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#4
Warning: Long post about to begin
The launch of the first probe went like this:
I designed a rocket using my Future Booster(Which I am the proud creator of)and pretty much just went from there.
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As I was sending this up into LEO, I decided that a refuel at my partiallybuilt waystation would be good, just in case.
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Turns out I probably didn't need to refuel, but I just was playing it safe. Now, the plan for getting into the atmosphere and landing was pretty simple. Try and aerobrake and land that way. Didn't work the first time too well.
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I think its cause I turned on the engines for a while that this happened... Or maybe I aimed a bit high...
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Good thing I still have some fuel and two Broadsword Engines. And the probe.
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Since I have some fuel to burn, why not put it in a Venus orbit?
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Now for the second try, which I shall not srew up.
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That day cycle thing looks stunning! Another reason why ACSS is awesome.
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When I detached the probe from the booster, well, something went wrong. The probe smashed back into the booster, destroying part of it. Luckily that solar panel saved the probe part itself.
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Now for the agonizingly slow decent...
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The probe determins that the solar radiation levels are within tolerance for life. Probe 2s mission will be posted next. Stay tuned my friends.

Something I wanna share quickly: How I screwed up the first attempt at landing is what I may use again to put the second probe in orbit and send it home. What do you guys think on that?
 

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Warning: Long post about to begin
The launch of the first probe went like this:
I designed a rocket using my Future Booster(Which I am the proud creator of)and pretty much just went from there.
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As I was sending this up into LEO, I decided that a refuel at my partiallybuilt waystation would be good, just in case.
View attachment 32422 Turns out I probably didn't need to refuel, but I just was playing it safe. Now, the plan for getting into the atmosphere and landing was pretty simple. Try and aerobrake and land that way. Didn't work the first time too well.
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View attachment 32424 I think its cause I turned on the engines for a while that this happened... Or maybe I aimed a bit high...
View attachment 32425 Good thing I still have some fuel and two Broadsword Engines. And the probe.
View attachment 32426 Since I have some fuel to burn, why not put it in a Venus orbit?
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Now for the second try, which I shall not srew up.
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That day cycle thing looks stunning! Another reason why ACSS is awesome.
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When I detached the probe from the booster, well, something went wrong. The probe smashed back into the booster, destroying part of it. Luckily that solar panel saved the probe part itself.
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Now for the agonizingly slow decent...
View attachment 32432 View attachment 32434 The probe determins that the solar radiation levels are within tolerance for life. Probe 2s mission will be posted next. Stay tuned my friends.

Something I wanna share quickly: How I screwed up the first attempt at landing is what I may use again to put the second probe in orbit and send it home. What do you guys think on that?
Nice!
 
#6
Warning: Long post about to begin
The launch of the first probe went like this:
I designed a rocket using my Future Booster(Which I am the proud creator of)and pretty much just went from there.
View attachment 32421
As I was sending this up into LEO, I decided that a refuel at my partiallybuilt waystation would be good, just in case.
View attachment 32422 Turns out I probably didn't need to refuel, but I just was playing it safe. Now, the plan for getting into the atmosphere and landing was pretty simple. Try and aerobrake and land that way. Didn't work the first time too well.
View attachment 32423
View attachment 32424 I think its cause I turned on the engines for a while that this happened... Or maybe I aimed a bit high...
View attachment 32425 Good thing I still have some fuel and two Broadsword Engines. And the probe.
View attachment 32426 Since I have some fuel to burn, why not put it in a Venus orbit?
View attachment 32427
Now for the second try, which I shall not srew up.
View attachment 32428
That day cycle thing looks stunning! Another reason why ACSS is awesome.
View attachment 32429
When I detached the probe from the booster, well, something went wrong. The probe smashed back into the booster, destroying part of it. Luckily that solar panel saved the probe part itself.
View attachment 32431
Now for the agonizingly slow decent...
View attachment 32432 View attachment 32434 The probe determins that the solar radiation levels are within tolerance for life. Probe 2s mission will be posted next. Stay tuned my friends.

Something I wanna share quickly: How I screwed up the first attempt at landing is what I may use again to put the second probe in orbit and send it home. What do you guys think on that?
I think the plan is supposed to be probe 1 orbits and measures reflected light info, and probe 2 descends the atmosphere between 10-15km for a sample...nobody lands, mostly because 2 needs to return to Earth and it’s easier that way

We could just do a hard aero brake to 12-14k and “bounce” out couldn’t we?
 

4KidsOneCamera

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I think the plan is supposed to be probe 1 orbits and measures reflected light info, and probe 2 descends the atmosphere between 10-15km for a sample...nobody lands, mostly because 2 needs to return to Earth and it’s easier that way

We could just do a hard aero brake to 12-14k and “bounce” out couldn’t we?
Yes. That is the goal. The hard aero break not the intention. Which is why the second probe is required to enter orbit before its descent.
 
#8
Well, that was hard...
Especially refusing to redesign my payload from first scratch :p

Venusian III
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Kinda light aero...
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Bit of a burn
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Couple more long brakes and a flex
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Pulled that in with that bit of fuel, pic is, um
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Gathering photons, calculating SPF requirements
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Fuel burn to empty starting at 30km...
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Let the gear down, maybe lower CoG
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Ohhhh baby...
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That did not happen the first many times, the orbit I mean, the fuel ran out nicely every time

Stability issues were a monster with the lower stage on Venus until I just went for an upper mid atmosphere burn and got the escape oriented and back over to the ascending side of the trajectory before hitting 14km or so
 

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Well, that was hard...
Especially refusing to redesign my payload from first scratch :p

Venusian III
View attachment 32445 View attachment 32446 View attachment 32447 View attachment 32448 View attachment 32449 Kinda light aero... View attachment 32450 Bit of a burn View attachment 32451 View attachment 32452 Couple more long brakes and a flex View attachment 32453 View attachment 32454 View attachment 32455 Pulled that in with that bit of fuel, pic is, um View attachment 32456 Gathering photons, calculating SPF requirements View attachment 32460 Fuel burn to empty starting at 30km... View attachment 32458 Let the gear down, maybe lower CoG View attachment 32459 View attachment 32461 Ohhhh baby... View attachment 32462 View attachment 32463 That did not happen the first many times, the orbit I mean, the fuel ran out nicely every time

Stability issues were a monster with the lower stage on Venus until I just went for an upper mid atmosphere burn and got the escape oriented and back over to the ascending side of the trajectory before hitting 14km or so
Very nice! ˙ ͜ʟ˙