( Real Life) Opinion of Space Force

[8BitCosmonaut]

Democracy is a myth, and extremely inefficient. That's why wherever you find it, you find trouble more than what can be borne by society. Autocracy is extremely efficient. If the leader is good, everybody smiles. If he's bad, guess what...

Democracy is not a myth, it is a working and widely popular concept, but the normal civilian are usually happier under a democracy than an autocratic monarchy/dictatorship. The only thing inefficient about democracy is the leader faces a lot of resistance within the council, since democratic countries tend to have much more freedom of objection than an autocratic state.

 

[8BitCosmonaut]

To be honest, I really fucking hate talking about politics to friends. It is always that which causes me to lose a lot of friends.

 

[Danny Batten]

To be honest, I really fucking hate talking about politics to friends. It is always that which causes me to lose a lot of friends.

Yeah it’s a very touchy subject

 

[TtTOtW]

Democracy breeds corruption, there is something called Shura, which is like democracy, but under a monarch. So he does not need to accept advice, but without councel he'll make poor decisions. There is no voting, but if he wants to he can take the majority opinion or not. Or do none of what was suggested and do the exact opposite. It makes for a very efficient rulership that can take shura even from a beggar on the street or from a hundred people or from absolutely no-one. But a bad man will fall not long after he starts, he'll be assassinated. And a good man will become invincible because nobody will let him be harmed.

 

[Aiden]

Its just a easyer way to launch nukes.. just hope that Nasa spacex..... will refuse to do contracts

 

[8BitCosmonaut]

Its just a easyer way to launch nukes.. just hope that Nasa spacex..... will refuse to do contracts

you can't blame them for taking contracts, sometimes they need the money

 

[Danny Batten]

you can't blame them for taking contracts, sometimes they need the money

Exactly. The only reason SpaceX didn’t go bankrupt is because NASA gave them a 1.6 billion dollar contract

 

[8BitCosmonaut]

Democracy breeds corruption, there is something called Shura, which is like democracy, but under a monarch. So he does not need to accept advice, but without councel he'll make poor decisions. There is no voting, but if he wants to he can take the majority opinion or not. Or do none of what was suggested and do the exact opposite. It makes for a very efficient rulership that can take shura even from a beggar on the street or from a hundred people or from absolutely no-one. But a bad man will fall not long after he starts, he'll be assassinated. And a good man will become invincible because nobody will let him be harmed.

Take another good look, which one do you think is easier to corrupt, a political system that allows for the lesser rank to speak out against the leader ship of it's flaws without fear of exile, or a system who puts a man into leadership where no peasant will dare speak out against him.

But a bad man will fall not long after he starts, he'll be assassinated. And a good man will become invincible because nobody will let him be harmed.

You think the political system runs like a church? If you are a leader in a dictatorship, you have to kill, you have to be brutal, because if you don't kill or kill too little, your opposers will say "He's weak! Kill him!", if you kill too much, they'll say "He's an asshole! Kill him!".
There must be some brutality in a dictator in order to be successful, want an example? Look at Elizabeth I.

 

[8BitCosmonaut]

You need to give them a reason not to fuck with you

 

[TtTOtW]

there were many men who were nowhere near brutal and ruled with shura. They walked the streets alone at night patrolling it for the safety of the inhabitants and travellers alike, wore patched clothes and ate the most inedible of food out of sympathy for the poor, giving whatever they owned away. They cried all night begging their Creator for mercy upon them and their people. Such men may lead with shura. Not the trash that call themselves human today but have no care for another once their convenient lifestyle is at stake. These men ruled so efficiently that at the end of their rule not one person worthy of accepting charity could be found in their territories.

 

[Danny Batten]

there were many men who were nowhere near brutal and ruled with shura. They walked the streets alone at night patrolling it for the safety of the inhabitants and travellers alike, wore patched clothes and ate the most inedible of food out of sympathy for the poor, giving whatever they owned away. They cried all night begging their Creator for mercy upon them and their people. Such men may lead with shura. Not the trash that call themselves human today but have no care for another once their convenient lifestyle is at stake. These men ruled so efficiently that at the end of their rule not one person worthy of accepting charity could be found in their territories.

This is sadly true. Money, money drives the harts of people nowadays. To help someone not for helping people but for the publicity of getting something in return.

 

[Gecko Gekkota]

This got very political, and i don't understand a word of it, so im just going to stand quietly in the corner.

 

[Danny Batten]

This got very political, and i don't understand a word of it, so im just going to stand quietly in the corner.

Yeah this conversation has derailed then crashed then exploded then sank in quick sand

 

[Gecko Gekkota]

Yeah this conversation has derailed then crashed then exploded then sank in quick sand

I've been in quicksand, not fun. It's a recoverable derail though, i think

 

[Danny Batten]

I've been in quicksand, not fun. It's a recoverable derail though, i think

Probably not after derailing and crashing n burning. Wouldn’t be much left XD.
You’ve been in quicksand? Yeah I wouldn’t be surprised, you would have to be a mad man to ENJOY being in it

 

[Gecko Gekkota]

Probably not after derailing and crashing n burning. Wouldn’t be much left XD.
You’ve been in quicksand? Yeah I wouldn’t be surprised, you would have to be a mad man to ENJOY being in it

It was my father's fault, he took 7 year old me onto quicksand, anyway, is anyone else going to give an actual opinion on space force?

 

[Danny Batten]

It was my father's fault, he took 7 year old me onto quicksand, anyway, is anyone else going to give an actual opinion on space force?

It would increase the efficiency rate of engines as we would be constantly trying to improve them with a HUGE budget

 

[Gecko Gekkota]

It would increase the efficiency rate of engines as we would be constantly trying to improve them with a HUGE budget

true

 

[Danny Batten]

Overall having a space force would increase the amount of money spent on space which will make the tech used leap and bound ahead of what it was

 

[8BitCosmonaut]

there were many men who were nowhere near brutal and ruled with shura. They walked the streets alone at night patrolling it for the safety of the inhabitants and travellers alike, wore patched clothes and ate the most inedible of food out of sympathy for the poor, giving whatever they owned away. They cried all night begging their Creator for mercy upon them and their people. Such men may lead with shura. Not the trash that call themselves human today but have no care for another once their convenient lifestyle is at stake. These men ruled so efficiently that at the end of their rule not one person worthy of accepting charity could be found in their territories.

noble, but very inefficient

 

[8BitCosmonaut]

Overall having a space force would increase the amount of money spent on space which will make the tech used leap and bound ahead of what it was

Didn't we sign a treaty to ensure space as an open territory? Where the hell is that then?

 

[TtTOtW]

noble, but very inefficient

On the contrary...

 

[Strychnine]

Democracy is not a myth, it is a working and widely popular concept, but the normal civilian are usually happier under a democracy than an autocratic monarchy/dictatorship. The only thing inefficient about democracy is the leader faces a lot of resistance within the council, since democratic countries tend to have much more freedom of objection than an autocratic state.

Democracy doesn't work. It fails every time its tried. That's why when the American founders were drafting a new constitution, they decided on a representative republic. The new republic took the best parts of a democracy and threw the rest away.

However, I believe that what the U.S. is finding out now, is that a representative republic is not the end all/be all the founders thought it to be. We live in interesting times, my friends. We are all witnesses to the start of a major paradigm shift. This is something the world hasn't seen in over 2000 years. Both religions and countries are discovering that the old systems of governing and controlling behavior (moral or otherwise), don't work as well when populations become as dense as they are.

One interesting factor in this equation is the advancement of medical technology and the decrease in young people having children. Some futurists believe the worldwide population is as large as it will be for the foreseeable future.

 

[TrebleSlayer]

It’s not going to happen they have no idea what they are talking about the relative velocity between two objects in orbit is usually a couple kilometers per second difference the amount of fuel you would need to make a plane change or take something in orbit and target a point on the earth would be hard to achieve because of the amount of Delta V you would need to make that change also you have to worry about aerothermodynamics an object moving that fast through the atmosphere would break apart so fast for example think about the columbia shuttle that broke apart on reentry you saw how much trouble that had coming back to earth in one pice. Nuclear missles on the other hand make sence because they are only suborbital and already have an intended land target that can be calculated almost perfectly something already in an orbit can also change its trajectory if they need to. So yes theoretically something like the Space Force is possible but not reality as of currently.

 

[Siradmiralchicken]

It’s not going to happen they have no idea what they are talking about the relative velocity between two objects in orbit is usually a couple kilometers per second difference the amount of fuel you would need to make a plane change or take something in orbit and target a point on the earth would be hard to achieve because of the amount of Delta V you would need to make that change also you have to worry about aerothermodynamics an object moving that fast through the atmosphere would break apart so fast for example think about the columbia shuttle that broke apart on reentry you saw how much trouble that had coming back to earth in one pice. Nuclear missles on the other hand make sence because they are only suborbital and already have an intended land target that can be calculated almost perfectly something already in an orbit can also change its trajectory if they need to. So yes theoretically something like the Space Force is possible but not reality as of currently.

With Space Lasers (actually in design), you could just aim for a target and fire off.