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This is in response to a question by @matt_548. How does one design such nice planes, rockets, rovers, etc.? It starts with an idea. I will design a... helicopter. First thing that came to mind. Ok, so build space wise, how big do I want it? Small, so I don't have to flip it over or anything. Right. This means it is gonna be small. The thing that takes the most width alone is the propeller. So let's see...
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Ok that leaves a bit of width for the tail to stick out. Let's do that next:
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Not a totally unsightly affair... Ok for now. Starting the transition to the body:
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And the nose bit. Ok I don't actually know how I'll get this done... Let's try a few things.
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Doesn't fit...
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Noooo... I can already see it not working out. Oh, well, let's just make it with structural parts, we'll find a solution later.
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Ah... Much better. Now let's close it up at the bottom. An 8x1 will fit perfectly.
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The foot should go...
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... about there. Launch. But wait, it doesn't even have an engine? So what, I just want to see if it will fall over or not...
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... Launch Anyway.
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And it stands! Well. Not bad, now we have something to work with.
I will continue posting until I have a usable, decent looking helicopter in my saves.
 
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TtTOtW said:
This is in response to a question by @matt_548. How does one design such nice planes, rockets, rovers, etc.? It starts with an idea. I will design a... helicopter. First thing that came to mind. Ok, so build space wise, how big do I want it? Small, so I don't have to flip it over or anything. Right. This means it is gonna be small. The thing that takes the most width alone is the propeller. So let's see...
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Ok that leaves a bit of width for the tail to stick out. Let's do that next:
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Not a totally unsightly affair... Ok for now. Starting the transition to the body:
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And the nose bit. Ok I don't actually know how I'll get this done... Let's try a few things.
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Doesn't fit...
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Noooo... I can already see it not working out. Oh, well, let's just make it with structural parts, we'll find a solution later.
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Ah... Much better. Now let's close it up at the bottom. An 8x1 will fit perfectly.
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The foot should go...
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... about there. Launch. But wait, it doesn't even have an engine? So what, I just want to see if it will fall over or not...
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... Launch Anyway.
View attachment 7684 And it stands! Well. Not bad, now we have something to work with.
I will continue posting until I have a usable, decent looking helicopter in my saves.
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Nice, it looks pretty good. I’ll try making a heli later
 
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Ok I feel like we can do that tail transition better. So out with those two angles, and shift the tail up a bit for the new part:
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Well, the top fits nicely, but the bottom... No. But I like the angle. And I see a good and natural space for the forward engine.
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Ah, now that's a lot easier on the eye. Only a Grasshopper will fit, but we'll see if it is sufficient or not at another time. The front section is a bit long for the short grasshopper to look right when connected to a fuel tank. So I take a smaller tank for the tail to fit the engine's tank farther back.
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Now just to fill that unsightly gap on top temporarily.
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The foot is weird now though. Fix that and...
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... Done!
Launch just for show and smile
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:) All-in-all a good improvement.
 
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TtTOtW said:
Ok I feel like we can do that tail transition better. So out with those two angles, and shift the tail up a bit for the new part:
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Well, the top fits nicely, but the bottom... No. But I like the angle. And I see a good and natural space for the forward engine.
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Ah, now that's a lot easier on the eye. Only a Grasshopper will fit, but we'll see if it is sufficient or not at another time. The front section is a bit long for the short grasshopper to look right when connected to a fuel tank. So I take a smaller tank for the tail to fit the engine's tank farther back.
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Now just to fill that unsightly gap on top temporarily.
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The foot is weird now though. Fix that and...
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... Done!
Launch just for show and smile
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:) All-in-all a good improvement.
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Lol I don’t want to be annoying but.....don’t you need a capsule?
 
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Ah, but where will it fit... I'll find an appropriate place later because I don't need to control it yet.
 
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I want a nice nose. We tried a bit in the first post, but I have another idea. Fairings! But the problem here is, fairings don't shape that way. But then again, half fairings do... Let's see what we can make of it.
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Looks like we have something happening here... Right, add a probe so we can pop those fairings, and a fairing piece to stretch back to the leg, so as to stick, or else the whole thing just falls apart when I split the fairings.
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Launch, split and...
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... Nothing.
Scrap...
Ok maybe work with it as is. Try a window-ish something above it. Will it work?
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Well obviously not. But I tried anyway.
... Right, that fairing was connected to that big centre tank. Better get rid of it then.
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Ok the flatter tank breaks the connection that trashed our plan earlier. Shifted the probe back so it stays connected. Launch, split, and...
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YES! That makes me happy! That is the shape I wanted, in fact it is better than I hoped for :D. We're getting somewhere...
 

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A fully functional Apache helicopter.
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It can hover with a secret engine inside. Then if you use both engines it can easily fly off in to the distance
 
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Danny, you want to do the next instalment on my helicopter? (Only one part of the helicopter)
 
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