Mercury mission

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U need to fly to Mercury and back.

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No cheats, no bp edited parts. Rocket must be 100t and less.

Good luck
 

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Interesting challenge. Remember that you are supposed to do it yourself first :)
 

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U need to fly to Mercury and back.

Rules:
No cheats, no bp edited parts. Rocket must be 100t and less.

Good luck
What about Ions? There are a few people out there that don't consider them cheating...
 

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I have already done it 3 month ago:cool: Your try
I'll do it with pleasure, don't worry. But that's a general rule, if you propose a challenge you have to show that you did it yourself too. We set that rule to avoid that people post crazy challenges that they didn't even try themselves.
 

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I'll do it with pleasure, don't worry. But that's a general rule, if you propose a challenge you have to show that you did it yourself too. We set that rule to avoid that people post crazy challenges that they didn't even try themselves.
Yeah i ll do it hmmmmmm....
after 5 days. "I ll do" in this I meant that i ll publish rocket and completed challenge
 

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U need to fly to Mercury and back.

Rules:
No cheats, no bp edited parts. Rocket must be 100t and less.

Good luck
Ah yes NON IONS
So, less than 100 tons, Mercury and back, no Ions?

I don’t think this is possible. Landing on Mercury, 100 percent doable (I already did it in 1.35, with less than 50 tons, because everything is half the mass) but returning to Earth? I really doubt it.
 

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He said he did it, so all he needs to do to prove it is screenshots.:)
 

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You felt it was necessary to post that... Why?
Quote a post so we know what your refering to and after put something more useful. Putting "..." In your post is fine , you should just tell them why it's silly or bad or whatever. That wouldn't be necessary here anyway as the problem has already been evaluated and pointed out unless you had another problem to point out or something useful to add regarding the first problem.
 

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Yeah i ll do it hmmmmmm....
after 5 days. "I ll do" in this I meant that i ll publish rocket and completed challenge
Ok I'll wait :)

For your information I just tried, for now I'm not frankly sure this is possible. And this wouldn't be the first time I go to Mercury and come back from it. I'm truly impatient to see how you proceed!

I thought I was good at that game, but I just discovered yesterday that some people could easily send a payload in a 20000 km Sun orbit, and now Mercury way and back in less than 100 tons without ions... I live some really exciting moments!
 

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For your information I just tried, for now I'm not frankly sure this is possible. And this wouldn't be the first time I go to Mercury and come back from it. I'm truly impatient to see how you proceed!
I see I’m not the only one! Guess we’ll just have to wait for Loxy ’s submission, to see how he proceeds.
I thought I was good at that game, but I just discovered yesterday that some people could easily send a payload in a 20000 km Sun orbit, and now Mercury way and back in less than 100 tons without ions... I live some really exciting moments!
Not to mention a recent 2000 km high rocket...
 

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So, less than 100 tons, Mercury and back, no Ions?

I don’t think this is possible. Landing on Mercury, 100 percent doable (I already did it in 1.35, with less than 50 tons, because everything is half the mass) but returning to Earth? I really doubt it.
I'm going to try. Getting into orbit is half the battle. Other half is climbing out of the well. Thinking small. I just happen to have been playing with small lately. Been an eye opener
 

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Why? Ions are the future
I'm going to try. Getting into orbit is half the battle. Other half is climbing out of the well. Thinking small. I just happen to have been playing with small lately. Been an eye opener
These are 4 minutes apart. Condense your posts.


I don’t think this is possible
I'm not frankly sure this is possible
I was mulling this one last night, and I'm in agreement. I have done 100t to Mercury and almost back again (the Razor Resurrect challenge), but that needed ion engines.
Without them? I can't see it being done. The re-fuel rocket I sent there during the Frontier trip was 60t and that only had to move 30t from LEO to LMO (all up. 95t).
 

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firstly ions dont consume electric anymore which gives ions the almost infinite engine until your fuel comes out.
 

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firstly ions dont consume electric anymore which gives ions the almost infinite engine until your fuel comes out.
What can be done is to make mandatory the use of solar panels/RTGs on the Ion stage, like in the previous versions.
For example, for every Ion engine you must have either:
  • 2 small solar panels
  • 1 big solar panel
  • 4 RTGs
That’s how they worked in the previous versions. That way they are a bit less cheaty. But without them, It really looks like impossible.
 

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Cheat thing.

panels/RTGs on the Ion stage, like in the previous versions.
For example, for every Ion engine you must have either:
2 small solar panels
1 big solar panel
4 RTGs


These are 4 minutes apart. Condense your posts.

was mulling this one last night, and I'm in agreement. I have done 100t to Mercury and almost back again (the Razor Resurrect challenge), but that needed ion engines.
Without them? I can't see it being done. The re-fuel rocket I sent there during the Frontier trip was 60t and that only had to move 30t from LEO to LMO (all up. 95t).


Ah, the ol "It's an official part of the game but it's a cheat logic." Hard to argue with that.

Blazer has a valid idea. One of these centuries electrical will return. Maybe not this millinium but we can hope.

I made Mercury orbit with just under 70 tons of rocket. I think it's doable. If you say impossible Altair I bow to your experience and I stand corrected. I used Venus once and the last of my fuel got me into orbit. Under 60 tons of fuel consumption.

Horry what can I say? I'm mentally deficit. Work with me.
 

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Ah, the ol "It's an official part of the game but it's a cheat logic." Hard to argue with that
The ions re-introduced in 1.5 aren't cheating, they're just brokenly over-powered for several reasons. The measures blazer mentioned balance them back to a level they were at 1.4 where they were slightly less OP as fuck.



I made Mercury orbit with just under 70 tons of rocket. I think it's doable
Well, there's more than a few of us here that'd be interested to see that. Because you've got just over 30 tons to get to the surface, get back to orbit and get back to Earth.


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I know. And I try.
 

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Let me restate for those who think it can be done without ions:
Proving it is as simple as posting screenshots of the mission.
 

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The ions re-introduced in 1.5 aren't cheating, they're just brokenly over-powered for several reasons. The measures blazer mentioned balance them back to a level they were at 1.4 where they were slightly less OP as fuck.





Well, there's more than a few of us here that'd be interested to see that. Because you've got just over 30 tons to get to the surface, get back to orbit and get back to Earth.




I know. And I try.
I do as well. We all have our burdens to bear. It was a test run. I surprised myself.. I badly screwed up 2nd run rushing it to get some documentation. here's some screenshots and a bp. Orbiting Mercury with this set up is very doable. The math is fine the operator needs some work. Wound up taking 2 passes at venus because I time warped past my perigee. I only got within spitting distance this time. If you have any doubts I will rerun it.
 

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