ANAIS: Advanced NAvigation Innovative System

[New Horizons]

Is anais gonna ever have something where you can just time warp to the most efficient transfer? Or like an indicator of where the most efficient transfer is, like say coloring the trajectory line.

Here's an example, like using existing colors to color your trajectory line based off of when the transfer would be most efficient. I'm probably stating things wrong lol. View attachment 118265

Amazing idea!

 

[Altaïr]

Is anais gonna ever have something where you can just time warp to the most efficient transfer? Or like an indicator of where the most efficient transfer is, like say coloring the trajectory line.

Here's an example, like using existing colors to color your trajectory line based off of when the transfer would be most efficient. I'm probably stating things wrong lol. View attachment 118265

The idea in itself is interesting, it could even be implemented, but at a very high cost in terms of performance. Currently, what ANAIS does is that it simulates transfers from the current position to the target at several possible arrival dates. If I was to implement this, it would need to simulate transfers for several arrival dates AND for several starting positions. If I make the calculation from let's say 20 different starting positions, the calculation time is multiplied by 20.
I take performance really in serious because this could be a real issue for such complex algorithms. Honestly I don't think the cost is worth it. I just managed to apply -40% on the calculation time, I don't see myself applying +2000% now

For informations, the calculations you suggest are similar to what is usually done to compute porkchop plots if you already heard about this, like this one:

In absolute this is possible to calculate, but not in real time. ANAIS does the calculations 30 times per second, this is not to be forgotten.

 

[Orion]

I'm having an issue where I can't type any values into the altitude option, everything just switches to zero.

 

[Altaïr]

I'm having an issue where I can't type any values into the altitude option, everything just switches to zero.

That part was developed quickly, so there could be some issues. Just to make sure, do you have a planet selected? Any value you enter is automatically reset to 0 when you type an altitude with no planet selected as target.

 

[Orion]

That part was developed quickly, so there could be some issues. Just to make sure, do you have a planet selected? Any value you enter is automatically reset to 0 when you type an altitude with no planet selected as target.

Oh, well that makes sense, that's probably the issue. Thanks!

 

[Altaïr]

Oh, well that makes sense, that's probably the issue. Thanks!

No problem, don't hesitate to tell me if it's unintuitive.
The reason why it's not possible to enter an altitude with no planet selected is because there's a sanity check: the altitude can't be above the SOI limit, but ANAIS needs to know the chosen planet to know the SOI radius. Also, I thought that if you entered a custom altitude then selected another planet the altitude you entered wouldn't be relevant anymore, so it's set by default to the time-warp limit (or the atmosphere limit if there's one).

 

[Darthan]

The idea in itself is interesting, it could even be implemented, but at a very high cost in terms of performance. Currently, what ANAIS does is that it simulates transfers from the current position to the target at several possible arrival dates. If I was to implement this, it would need to simulate transfers for several arrival dates AND for several starting positions. If I make the calculation from let's say 20 different starting positions, the calculation time is multiplied by 20.
I take performance really in serious because this could be a real issue for such complex algorithms. Honestly I don't think the cost is worth it. I just managed to apply -40% on the calculation time, I don't see myself applying +2000% now

You could do the calculation for alternate starting positions at a lower frequency. For example calculate one additional starting position 10 times per second (or even slower) storing the result in a list together with the time, and delete older entries as the list fills up. Also, if you did a pair of points at the same time , that are fairly close to each other, you could chose the next pair in the direction of the 'better' one of the two. It might be possible to converge on the 'best' position fairly quickly.

 

[Altaïr]

You could do the calculation for alternate starting positions at a lower frequency. For example calculate one additional starting position 10 times per second (or even slower) storing the result in a list together with the time, and delete older entries as the list fills up. Also, if you did a pair of points at the same time , that are fairly close to each other, you could chose the next pair in the direction of the 'better' one of the two. It might be possible to converge on the 'best' position fairly quickly.

Possible but complicated. In the sense "adds some complexity to something already complex". And it would probably be a problem in time-warp mode, if the ship orbits so fast that ANAIS doesn't have enough iterations available to locate the minimum over a period. However if it's just about calculating the optimal starting point it's not that complicated, I just need to simulate Hohmann transfers from several points and see which one leads to the target. This particular case is ok, but calculating many intermediate points would be very costly. Even if there's the possibility to spread the calculation over time, but at the price of increased complexity. I consider CPU time as a precious resource. Believe me, your CPU will thank me

 

[Darthan]

However if it's just about calculating the optimal starting point it's not that complicated, I just need to simulate Hohmann transfers from several points and see which one leads to the target. This particular case is ok, but calculating many intermediate points would be very costly.

I think that case is the one in demand. The builtin navigator shows the transfer window (or rather point), allows you to time warp to it (and shows the dv needed when you get there). That is often enough for the simple cases.

 

[SFS New Space]

How to transfer to other planets?

 

[Mario Hobbs]

How to transfer to other planets?

The same way as in vanilla, you press the "transfer to" button, but unlike vanilla you have to wait for the optimal transfer which will be marked in a cyan sort of blue.

Though if you mean how to transfer to other planets in vanilla, you simply have to zoom out, click on the planet, press the "Transfer to" button and you should get a transfer window you can time-warp to so you can start your burn.

 

[SFS New Space]

The same way as in vanilla, you press the "transfer to" button, but unlike vanilla you have to wait for the optimal transfer which will be marked in a cyan sort of blue.

Though if you mean how to transfer to other planets in vanilla, you simply have to zoom out, click on the planet, press the "Transfer to" button and you should get a transfer window you can time-warp to so you can start your burn.

No I meant with ANAIS, so thanks

 

[Whiskey Tango Foxtrot]

No I meant with ANAIS, so thanks

That's what he meant..... like he meant the same way you can do it without ANAIS

 

[SFS New Space]

That's what he meant..... like he meant the same way you can do it without ANAIS

I knew what he said and I learned already

 

[Norman5]

Im having a minor issue where UI tools and ANAIS do not work, this is really odd, i don’t know who to fix this

 

[Altaïr]

Im having a minor issue where UI tools and ANAIS do not work, this is really odd, i don’t know who to fix this

They do not work, you mean they do not even appear in the mod list?

 

[Norman5]

ive fixed the ANAIS issue, i just had an incompatible mod paired with it, but UI tools is still broken.

 

[Altaïr]

ive fixed the ANAIS issue, i just had an incompatible mod paired with it, but UI tools is still broken.

Which mod was incompatible with it? Just to know so that I can warn others about the incompatibility and see if I can fix it.
Also, how can UI tools be still broken?? It's required for ANAIS to work. What's wrong with it exactly?

 

[ILovespace3]

I just thought of an inappropriate way to pronounce this mod, but I'm not a devil....
Wait, are those horns? Well s***

 

[Lemniscate Biscuit]

I just thought of an inappropriate way to pronounce this mod, but I'm not a devil....
Wait, are those horns? Well s***

That one character from Gumball.

 

[Norman5]

The mod was closet approach lines. UI Tool's Windows wont show up. ive reinstalled ui tools and it doesn’t fix it.

 

[Altaïr]

The mod was closet approach lines.

It was already said to be honest:

It can't cause incompatibility issues properly said though, since ANAIS will detect the closest approach line and will force the desactivation of one of the mods, as you probably noticed.

UI Tool's Windows wont show up.

There's no UI Tool's window. UI Tools adds additional features for mod makers (like auto-update), but it does nothing by itself. As I said UI Tools is a dependency of ANAIS, so if ANAIS works then UI Tools works fine, you don't have to worry about it.

 

[Star_Gate]

very useful mod Thank you for creating it.

 

[Altaïr]

very useful mod Thank you for creating it.

Thanks for your return, I'm glad you apreciate

 

[Norman5]

It was already said to be honest:
View attachment 120369
It can't cause incompatibility issues properly said though, since ANAIS will detect the closest approach line and will force the desactivation of one of the mods, as you probably noticed.


There's no UI Tool's window. UI Tools adds additional features for mod makers (like auto-update), but it does nothing by itself. As I said UI Tools is a dependency of ANAIS, so if ANAIS works then UI Tools works fine, you don't have to worry about it.

Oh I guess that was why. Since i got ANAIS working, Ive been having a blast using it with The Real Scale Solar System. I find it fun to do budget moon missions.