Did someone made a list of E V E R Y rocket?

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Ok i said me and Marmilo are making revamped version of ,,My Collection of Rockets" so i decided to show some sneek peek pics:

Antares with Cygnus (theres also version without it which is not shown here):

Black Arrow:

Diamant:

Electron:

Epsilon:

Falcon 1:

Lambda 4S:

Safir:

Shavit:

Simorgh:

Minotaur I:

Vanguard:

To Marmilo: Juno 1 and Ares I are being redesigned. I decided to choose my Vanguard .

 

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That's impressive!
Question about the Black Arrow, why the RCS on the second stage?
And I know about aesthetics, but it KILLS me to see Valiant engines on tiny second and third stages.

 

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That's impressive!
Question about the Black Arrow, why the RCS on the second stage?
And I know about aesthetics, but it KILLS me to see Valiant engines on tiny second and third stages.

Small stages have problem with balance so i used rcs, i am sorry for the esthetics but kolibri cant lift them

 

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Finally i made a Juno 1:

Oh and also i have Thor-Able rocket but i need to give her markings

 

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I also made a little bonus: ILR-33 Bursztyn (or ILR-33 Amber) - Polish suborbital rocket that is really smol

 

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Aproximate max altitude:

 

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Hold on a right minute there, mister... Are ya tryin' to tell me Kolibri can carry Vanguard but Valiant can't?

 

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Hold on a right minute there, mister... Are ya tryin' to tell me Kolibri can carry Vanguard but Valiant can't?

Its overlapped like 4 times man

 

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So that means, with your Vanguard (4 kolibri on stage 1, 1 valiant on stage 2), the second stage has 2/3rds the thrust of the first stage.
I really think the second stage should have a Kolibri, as long as the TWR is 0.5 - 1 it's fine.

 

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So that means, with your Vanguard (4 kolibri on stage 1, 1 valiant on stage 2), the second stage has 2/3rds the thrust of the first stage.
I really think the second stage should have a Kolibri, as long as the TWR is 0.5 - 1 it's fine.

Well... Its fine :]

 

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The second stage of that Minotaur 1 looks like it weighs 10t, carrying another 10t of third stage and payload.
20t is perfectly pushable by a Kolibri (TWR of 0.75?) Second stage with TWR of 2 is....

 

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The second stage of that Minotaur 1 looks like it weighs 10t, carrying another 10t of third stage and payload.
20t is perfectly pushable by a Kolibri (TWR of 0.75?) Second stage with TWR of 2 is....

The instructions on rockets are created by Marmilo so tell that him. Also its like this to match real engines

 

[Horus Lupercal]

Second stage with TWR of 2 is....

Why? Even the STS could maintain a TWR of 3 during ascent, especially during the 5 ish minute burn after the SRBs come away. And that section is considered the smooth part of riding the shuttle.

Bear in mind when you say TWR 2 is insane, that the TWR would be much higher than 2 just before the first stage cut out and the second stage fires.

2 gees is not gonna kill your crew. STS was rated to 3.3g. I'm pretty sure Saturn V kept it below 4g by shutting down the centre F-1 during S-1 burn. Gemini was apparently even more brutal during a lift. NASCAR car drivers regularly exceed 3g for several hours on the banked turns. Most decent fighter aircraft are rated to 9-10g. The human body in that orientation of facing upwards (with the blood moving backwards across the body) as they do in rockets can resist double the g forces they would be able to as if the forces were pushing the blood down like during aircraft maneuvers.

A TWR of 2 is much better than a negative TWR for efficiency. You're not accelerating until your TWR clears 1. Everything under that is doing little more than just minimising gravity losses. A TWR of 0.75 is the equivalent of everytime you take 4 steps forwards, you take one step back

 

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The instructions on rockets are created by Marmilo so tell that him. Also its like this to match real engines

Real engines? That much wider? Maaaaarmiiiiilooooo?!?!?!

 

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Real engines? That much wider? Maaaaarmiiiiilooooo?!?!?!

No i mean this valiant in Vanguard is mine addition cause kolibri wouldnt have enogh power to lift rest of rocket (originally there was kolibri but its too smol and it cant be overlapped cause i would be unable to fire it) so you don't have to be angry at Marmilo

 

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Why? Even the STS could maintain a TWR of 3 during ascent, especially during the 5 ish minute burn after the SRBs come away. And that section is considered the smooth part of riding the shuttle.

Bear in mind when you say TWR 2 is insane, that the TWR would be much higher than 2 just before the first stage cut out and the second stage fires.

2 gees is not gonna kill your crew. STS was rated to 3.3g. I'm pretty sure Saturn V kept it below 4g by shutting down the centre F-1 during S-1 burn. Gemini was apparently even more brutal during a lift. NASCAR car drivers regularly exceed 3g for several hours on the banked turns. Most decent fighter aircraft are rated to 9-10g. The human body in that orientation of facing upwards (with the blood moving backwards across the body) as they do in rockets can resist double the g forces they would be able to as if the forces were pushing the blood down like during aircraft maneuvers.

A TWR of 2 is much better than a negative TWR for efficiency. You're not accelerating until your TWR clears 1. Everything under that is doing little more than just minimising gravity losses. A TWR of 0.75 is the equivalent of everytime you take 4 steps forwards, you take one step back

But you see Horus: NOT A SINGLE ASTRO/COSMO/TAIKONAUT RIDED A VANGUARD

 

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No i mean this valiant in Vanguard is mine addition cause kolibri wouldnt have enogh power to lift rest of rocket (originally there was kolibri but its too smol and it cant be overlapped cause i would be unable to fire it) so you don't have to be angry at Marmilo

Ok, so YOU are the one whose posts I must wipe out... Hmmm...

 

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Ok, so YOU are the one whose posts I must wipe out... Hmmm...

I know it looks horrible but there was no other choice

 

[TtTOtW]

I think I'll start with that nice planet pack of yours...

 

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I think I'll start with that nice planet pack of yours...

Well i don't have to worry cause i have copied all the versions to my disk

 

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Also taikonaut is chinese astronaut

 

[TtTOtW]

Well i don't have to worry cause i have copied all the versions to my disk

Oh I won't stop there... Oh no. I'll delete YOU, one post at a time, until you're FINISHED!

 

[Horus Lupercal]

But you see Horus: NOT A SINGLE ASTRO/COSMO/TAIKONAUT RIDED A VANGUARD

I didn't say anyone had. I'm saying (if you read it) that people are getting all excited about 'high TWR' forgetting that in the scope of things, it's not that bad.

Also, those rockets (STS, Saturn V etc) didn't throttle back to save the crew from the g forces. It was the structural integrity of the stacks that meant they had to do it. So it has absolutely nothing to do with them being manned rockets or not. So save the capslock for someone else.

 

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Oh I won't stop there... Oh no. I'll delete YOU, one post at a time, until you're FINISHED!

then imma ded...

 

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I didn't say anyone had. I'm saying (if you read it) that people are getting all excited about 'high TWR' forgetting that in the scope of things, it's not that bad.

Also, those rockets (STS, Saturn V etc) didn't throttle back to save the crew from the g forces. It was the structural integrity of the stacks that meant they had to do it. So it has absolutely nothing to do with them being manned rockets or not. So save the capslock for someone else.

People gets rabies when they see it and don't think that this is REPLICA