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Why does that matter? rules dont say anything about mods
You do whatever you want in your videos of course, but that challenge is supposed to be accomplished by fair means. Mods were not mentionned for the simple reason that there were no mods at the time of the challenge. Some fair bp-edit changes or even the use of infinite build area are usually allowed because no kiloton launcher would fit in the build grid anyway (actually it's possible, I made this one), but stretching engines is generally forbidden, because their thrust scales up with size, but their mass doesn't. And even if that was the case that would just be lame. That's why it's not accepted.

How do u think the big first stage engine was used? Bp edit. I never used stuff like inf fuel abuse or docking ports, just reasonable changes
Honestly, using an engine that has an Isp of 3.500.000 seconds like in your Grand Tour video is not very different from using infinite fuel.
 
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You do whatever you want in your videos of course, but that challenge is supposed to be accomplished by fair means. Mods were not mentionned for the simple reason that there were no mods at the time of the challenge. Some fair bp-edit changes or even the use of infinite build area are usually allowed because no kiloton launcher would fit in the build grid anyway (actually it's possible, I made this one), but stretching engines is generally forbidden, because their thrust scales up with size, but their mass doesn't. And even if that was the case that would just be lame. That's why it's not accepted.


Honestly, using an engine that has an Isp of 3.500.000 seconds like in your Grand Tour video is not very different from using infinite fuel.
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You do whatever you want in your videos of course, but that challenge is supposed to be accomplished by fair means. Mods were not mentionned for the simple reason that there were no mods at the time of the challenge. Some fair bp-edit changes or even the use of infinite build area are usually allowed because no kiloton launcher would fit in the build grid anyway (actually it's possible, I made this one), but stretching engines is generally forbidden, because their thrust scales up with size, but their mass doesn't. And even if that was the case that would just be lame. That's why it's not accepted.


Honestly, using an engine that has an Isp of 3.500.000 seconds like in your Grand Tour video is not very different from using infinite fuel.
The man does it again:)
 
Rocket used was made by someone that gave me a challenge in blueprints so yea 5000 tons in space or 5 kiltons in space.
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The person who made the rocket was: Lemniscate Biscuit
 

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Rocket used was made by someone that gave me a challenge in blueprints so yea 5000 tons in space or 5 kiltons in space. View attachment 111448 View attachment 111449 View attachment 111450 View attachment 111451 View attachment 111452

The person who made the rocket was: Lemniscate Biscuit
5 kilotons in space??? It doesn't even weigh 5 kilotons on the pad... And you used infinite fuel dude! Challenges are supposed to be made without cheats.
Also, launching 1 kton to LEO means that your payload must weigh 1kton, not the whole launcher.
And of course if you consume the fuel from the payload you alleviate it, so you can't just pump the fuel from the payload.
 

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Man sometimes I feel like I get builled by half of this
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That was not the intention, I was only reminding the rules. Challenges are meant to be done legitimately. If you can just spam engines and use infinite fuel there's no interest, what's the point?

He didn't ask for permission to use my rocket! WTF DUDE!?
Honestly I would defend him on that (though he may use his own rocket for a challenge): he credited you, and if you share a rocket I suppose it's not to keep it for yourself...
 

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Honestly I would defend him on that (though he may use his own rocket for a challenge): he credited you, and if you share a rocket I suppose it's not to keep it for yourself...
I think biscuit is upset about the guy being to lazy to make his own rocket for the challenge, not the sole fact of his rocket being used
 

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I think biscuit is upset about the guy being to lazy to make his own rocket for the challenge, not the sole fact of his rocket being used
Ah. I can understand that of course. As I said, he should build his own rocket for a challenge.
 
I think biscuit is upset about the guy being to lazy to make his own rocket for the challenge, not the sole fact of his rocket being used
I’m not lazy I’m just giving it a try see if it could send 10,000 tons or 5,000 tons to space. You can’t just say someone is lazy till knowing that they feel or look lazy.
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I’m not lazy I’m just giving it a try see if it could send 10,000 tons or 5,000 tons to space. You can’t just say someone is lazy till knowing that they feel or look lazy.
Life lesson my friend
Hey, I defended you to a degree but now you're insolent. And it's ironic that you post that right after having complained that you felt bullied.
 

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Hey, I defended you to a degree but now you're insolent. And it's ironic that you post that right after having complained that you felt bullied.
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I’m not lazy I’m just giving it a try see if it could send 10,000 tons or 5,000 tons to space. You can’t just say someone is lazy till knowing that they feel or look lazy.
Life lesson my friend
Oh you can definitely make a good guess about how lazy someone is based on their actions. Also, you say you were giving it a try, but then why did you post it as if it was your entry? Also stop being so unnecessarily smug, doesn't come across well.
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Man sometimes I feel like I get builled by half of this

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Oh you can definitely make a good guess about how lazy someone is based on their actions. Also, you say you were giving it a try, but then why did you post it as if it was your entry? Also stop being so unnecessarily smug, doesn't come across well.
Well damn but I told him: