What do you mean?
Do you think we have fallen into nonsense in this thread?
Simply that the original purpose of the thread was very narrowly defined:
Lightest rocket that brings a certain payload mass to a destination.
Originally it was 1000 tonnes to low earth orbit, but some did to the moon or other destinations.
But then people just kept making their rockets bigger and bigger with no end in sight, so it was a size contest dependent on patience and how strong your computer was. Efficiency was forgotten.
Anyway, it is fine if you are still focusing on efficiency and lightness, even with bigger payloads than intended.
Speaking of the original purpose, 1000 tonnes may be too small today after all the updates, 2000 tonnes may be more appropriate.