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[Blazer Ayanami]

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To me, the Grand Amber is really something to behold...

Oh, Thanks! Now I understand her better.

 

[Lt. Snakestrike]

I I gave you the Δ2 with the Δ4 upgrades except the Titan. So that would be the Δ2.1i

Sounds right.

 

[Lt. Snakestrike]

Soo... when're you gonna be landing a shuttle on the sun?

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[TtTOtW]

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I tried...

 

[Lt. Snakestrike]

Lol, what Radiant was made for!

 

[Pink]

Looks like it got surprisingly close!

 

[Blazer Ayanami]

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I tried...

Never try to think like Icarus

 

[TtTOtW]

Lol, what Radiant was made for!

Preeeeetty much...

 

[Pink]

I'm wondering what the limits of this shuttle are.
What's the max cargo mass, and how much dV do you get fully loaded vs empty?

 

[TtTOtW]

It's transported 800t to Mars... And returned to Earth orbit. Without refuelling...

 

[TtTOtW]

And it actually did what we deemed impossible here: entered Jupiter atmosphere, got hit by the 10000m/s bug and escaped into orbit anyway...

 

[Pink]

It's transported 800t to Mars... And returned to Earth orbit. Without refuelling...

That's at least 4500 m/s of dV, right?
With 800 tons... And no ion engines?

 

[TtTOtW]

It's got 3 built in, but I didn't use them.

 

[TtTOtW]

Empty the Δv approaches 5800s.

 

[Pink]

Ok.
And I don't want to know the burn time with 3 ion engines.

 

[TtTOtW]

Yeah...

 

[TtTOtW]

... the ions are there for only deep space missions and fuel based emergencies, as well as superfine interplanetary trajectory adjustments.

 

[Altaïr]

That's at least 4500 m/s of dV, right?
With 800 tons... And no ion engines?

It's not that much! That's 740 m/s for the Earth to Mars injection burn, and 414 m/s for the insertion around Mars (reducible with aerobraking).
For the return part (without the payload now), those are the same numbers, but that's the 740 m/s that are reducible now.
Were you taking into account the lift-off part?

 

[TtTOtW]

It's not that much! That's 740 m/s for the Earth to Mars injection burn, and 414 m/s for the insertion around Mars (reducible with aerobraking).
For the return part (without the payload now), those are the same numbers, but that's the 740 m/s that are reducible now.
Were you taking into account the lift-off part?

No I refuelled in orbit prior to loading and departure.

 

[Pink]

It's not that much! That's 740 m/s for the Earth to Mars injection burn, and 414 m/s for the insertion around Mars (reducible with aerobraking).
For the return part (without the payload now), those are the same numbers, but that's the 740 m/s that are reducible now.
Were you taking into account the lift-off part?

I looked at https://jmnet.one/sfs/forum/index.php?threads/deltav-map.1548/#post-24584 and added up the numbers between LEO and LMO... That's not correct?

 

[Altaïr]

I looked at https://jmnet.one/sfs/forum/index.php?threads/deltav-map.1548/#post-24584 and added up the numbers between LEO and LMO... That's not correct?

Ah, I understand.
Actually that map takes into account the lift-off from Earth, hence the huge value. This map was for 1.35 too, I've done another one especially for the 1.4 version:
https://jmnet.one/sfs/forum/index.php?threads/delta-v-map-for-sfs-1-4.1874/
The reasoning is correct otherwise, you have to sum up all numbers encountered from LEO to LMO.

 

[Pink]

Ah, I understand.
Actually that map takes into account the lift-off from Earth, hence the huge value. This map was for 1.35 too, I've done another one especially for the 1.4 version:
https://jmnet.one/sfs/forum/index.php?threads/delta-v-map-for-sfs-1-4.1874/
The reasoning is correct otherwise, you have to sum up all numbers encountered from LEO to LMO.

Ah, thank you!

 

[Tony]

 

[JSP]

This is for 1.5 try and land on Rhea with the new 1.5 stuff

 

[TtTOtW]

This is for 1.5 try and land on Rhea with the new 1.5 stuff

I'll build a new Shuttle first